A. Parish Questions
| 1. What are three particular stengths of this parish that attract members and keep them involved? | 2. What are three significant challenges facing this parish? | 3. What is the unique mission and ministry of this parish for its members and for the wider community? |
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The music at Mass | Having school families attend Mass | Excellent variety of programs offered |
Location, community/people, history. | Financial (are we being fiscally responsible?), school issues (disastrous administration and families that seem to "run the show"), a priest that can be a bully. | I honestly don't know. We are finding it harder to want to show up for mass. We are constantly pressured to give more money while our priest does things like film a stock the bard video and installing a hot tub (gift or no gift this was inappropriate). Our principal was not involved in the parish so we are hopeful the new principal can help bridge the parish and school better. |
1. Our pastor, Shayne Duvall, is a wonderful, gregarious, inspirational, and dedicated spiritual leader. 2. Our school and its teachers are top-notch. 3. We have a committed and active legion of parish volunteers. | 1. Fulfilling the needs of two campuses. 2. Maintaining the standard of excellence at our school. 3. Retaining the participation of our youth as they grow and start families of their own | Gaining and retaining a youthful, ongoing church membership and participation. |
Parish, was previously in our school. In order to answer this question,, I looked up definition of “parish” and it means community a collective of people gathering together as one group. This was a strength when my family started this parish. I continue to attend this parish, because I believe when can get back to being a true parish, including the school.. my family vomits time and talent along with treasure to this community because when we started the parish welcomed us with open arms. It is no longer this way. Instead the focus is on money and those who can significantly contribute financially. Previously this was not the case—all families are welcome. I stay because I believe in what we were as a community. | The first is prioritizing money over everything. When the Catholic Church established stewardship it meant time, talent and treasurer, within this parish it only means treasure. This is unfortunate, especially for my family, who knowing our bank account isn’t as big as others, gives its time. Lack of true transparency is a significant challenge. As is enumerated in the parish survey, we have no parish council-why this seams contrary to other communities. Transparency includes listening, faith I. The members who have but their faith in leadership. We cannot be a pariah if only certain voices are perceived as the collective. Consensus building is a significant challenge, we are told who we are to be as a parish, we are not part of the process to determine who will be collectively. Leadership is not just dictating it is building together with one voice. We were this, but we are no longer. Instead we are told give money, give money and everything you were and who you are is wrong.. This is not a positive environment for building and constructing a strong community of faith. Faith in us as sinners and redemption. We love this community we just wish that leadership, loved us as well. | Our mission in my view, is to take its talents and gifts and share them with our community at large to live the mission of the Catholic Church through action. To build families who believe in our parish and spread the faith through action in the community. Living in the community in our faith. Living our faith in the community and not just throwing money at problems. |
Worship: I experience the parish primarily through weekly worship, and we have great music, preaching, community, and participation. Education/Formation: The school has always had an excellent reputation. In the past, I also have experienced meaningful adult experiences, especially through the Christ Renews His Parish process and other experiences, such as Why Catholic, Renew 2000. The RCIA experience in the parish also has historically been strong; I am uncertain about it now. Youth ministry has been up and down, but the numbers involved now are better, as reflected on the statistics submitted by the parish. Social Outreach: Holy Trinity has responded generously to the broader community through its St. Vincent de Paul chapter, school service program, and in the past through the social outreach committee. I am pleased that the parish also now has a Care for Creation Team. | Participation and leadership among parishioners: Though we have a growing number of parishioners and increasing attendance at Mass, it still seems that a relatively small percentage of parishioners are involved and even fewer seem to want to take on leadership positions. Education/Formation directed to adults: The Christ Renews His Parish program is strong, but I am uncertain about other adult ed opportunities and was puzzled by the response on the parish form that the parish does not have an adult education program. This may be related to the challenge above. Leadership stretched: I worry about the toll on our clergy and staff as they seek to serve our large parish and school as well as another parish. | Holy Trinity has been blessed with many resources of time, talent, and treasure. Therefore, I think a distinct (not sure it is unique) challenge is to reach out to the community to support those in need and to empower and inspire our parishioners to be bearers of the good news in their families, neighborhoods, workplaces, and civic spaces. |
1. The parishioners are friendly and welcoming. 2. It is an active parish with many opportunities to get involved. 3. Father Shane is a good speaker and is good at promoting involvement opportunities and motivating participation. | 1. Priests are spread too thin. 2. Getting more parishioners invloved with activities. 3. It is sometimes hard to schedule activities because all the available spaces are booked. | I don't understand this question. I don't believe any parish has a truly unique mission or ministry. However, I think we do have a few outreach ministries that other churches don't have, such as St. Vincent Depaul and Stephen Ministry. |
School | Space | Spread Catholicism and its values in a secular society |
1. A welcome atmosphere and safe place to worship reverently and peacefully. I feel it is a true House of God. | 1. The involvement of school families in the church and how to increase it politely and secure “by in” to Catholic worship. | Facilitate and encourage becoming closer to God not just on Sunday, but throughout our busy and complicated lives through daily interactions with Catholics and non-Catholics alike to improve the lives of all people. |
Short masses | Insufficient Parking | Help the poor and needy |
The facilities are good. The priest is usually top notch. And the school is important to my future family planning. | In my mid 30s I don’t think you market to or do things to get me and people my age involved. The direction of the church feels catered to the older generations. While I admit the Catholic Church has done a better job than other organizations, the church still feels too conservative. | I don’t know how to answer this question. I understand what you’re asking, but I have no clue what the answer is. |
1) Caring, hard-working priests. 2) A very good seniors' program. 3) Friendly, smiling parishioners. | 1) One more priest (at least) is needed to help carry the load. 2) The need to bring back the Sunday evening Mass. 3) Parents with distracting young children need to make use of the lobby where Mass can be viewed and heard very well without disturbing others. | To carry out Christ's Great Commission and to lead as Christ-like lives as each of us possibly can. |
Father Shayne is a wonderful pastor and leader. | For a parish this size, I would expect to see more families at mass on the weekends. | The parish strives to get more members and families involved. |
teachers - admin are fantastic. I know my kids are getting a fantastic education CRHP and the many opportunities for parishioners to get involved great pastor | finances - we need to get our finances figured out basketball facilities - we need 2 gyms and more space we need to be able to have more of our sporting practices on campus | to get all of us to Heaven |
The vitality of the school | Declining church attendance | Provide a welcoming environment for parishioners and guests to worship God and provide a Christ-centered school. |
Holy Trinity is a very inviting and welcoming parish. When I joined about two years ago, I was so pleased with how friendly and welcoming so many were. The choir, under the direction of Elizabeth Jackson, is wonderful! The harmonies and continued musical growth greatly enhance the liturgy. We are blessed to have Fr. Shayne and Fr. Wayne who both give inspirational homilies. Deacon Chris is getting more confident, and his homilies reflect that confidence. | I know there is a shortage of priests, so I don't know if this will be possible, but another Associate priest would really help Fr. Shayne. He doesn't complain, but he must be exhausted. We have many great opportunities for spiritual growth, but possibly more encouragement to get involved in them. It would be nice to have more parking. | I would hope that it is to spread the Gospel and to help others deepen their faith. And care for one another. Be kind and understand that we have differences, and that is OK. |
Homilies by both priests are strong and meaningful, and challenges us to live a better life and to know that God is always present. The parish community is friendly and welcoming. Liturgies are enhanced with a choir singing hymns that always apply to the Mass being celebrated on that day. | I have not been in the parish long enough to answer this question. | I think the mission is to offer programs which enhance our faith and to be welcoming to everyone. |
1. The loving, welcoming and inclusive community. The parishioners are strong and mighty. Groups of parishioners come together beautifully in times of celebration and in times of trouble. 2. The parish/school connection is strong. The school continually leads children and families back to the parish (mass) and excited children for their sacraments. 3. The many groups/communities within the larger community that allow children and families from all walks of life to participate. the offerings for stewardship are endless! | 1. Busy families not making time to attend mass | Pray/Study/Serve. To be disciples of Christ and to share the good news with the greater community. |
1) School ministry & preforming arts (especially Michelle Harrington) | 1) Lack of priests (Serving both Holy trinity & St. Frances of Rome) | 1) School involvement |
- location of so many households - bonds with other parishioners (school and history) - historically strong and passionate priests | - the culture - busy, immediate - formation of catholic education - many families in Louisville are “cultural Catholics” - as children leave the school and school age, the family is pulled apart and does not attend together | - Our economic wealth as a parish - |
Centrally located in St Matthews | Low participation rates based on the numbers...members not ALL engaged. | I think we are a parish that truly cares for others...using the time honored pledge of Time, Talent and Treasure. We are a wealthy parish but do back it up with participation on all 3 fronts. |
Wonderful pastor. We have been blessed to have a series of talented priests serve as pastor at our parish. | Our parish doesn’t offer many activities that keep our high school, college, and young adults active at the parish. I feel that HT that our parish is blessed with financial resources and that we should hire a person whose job it is to really develop such a program (young adult Bible studies, social events, group volunteering opportunities, regular conversations/ question and answer sessions with our priests) at HT that could eventually grow to serve many of the young adults in parishes across the Archdiocese. | Sharing our gifts in service of the community. |
Sense of community; all ages are included in multiple activities, committees | It seems that some parishioners are intimidated by the size of our parish/school. I feel like any size is manageable and can be positive if people are involved and programs/groups are reflected upon and reevaluated periodically. Size shouldn't matter if good people are working with good intentions. | Pray/Study/Serve |
Holy Trinity's "Welcome"/"Christ Renews His Parish" retreat program for men and women, and to a lesser extent, the men's club, parish picnic, and fish fries, do a good job of forming community. The school and school sports programs are key to the vitality of the parish. Renewed emphasis on the choir and other roles at Mass encourage involvement and community | Needs exceed resources, including lack of parking, gym space, and church space (would be problematic if school family attendance was better). Families at Holy Trinity have resources, but many demands on their time and lots of options, making a strong youth group program and weekly mass attendance difficult. I think modern culture is a challenge to the church in a lot of ways. For example, why so few weddings? I think the Archdiocese needs to think about ways to tackle the wedding phenomenon. | Holy Trinity has had wonderful leaders which has, with the help of generous donors, allowed us to serve a large number of students in our traditional school and open a school for students with language-based learning differences. I think in many ways HT serves as a model for larger suburban parishes. |
1. Volunteering. Our PTA, room parents, and number of volunteers for every event is wonderful. | 1. Size. We have so many kids in our parish, we can't serve those that we have in the most meaningful way. Losing green spaces to extra parking lots, driving all over town to practice sports instead of being able to practice at our own school, not having capacity for all kids who desire after school care are just a few ways our size seems too large. | "To whom much is given, much will be required." Father Mark taught us this years ago and I believe this is our unique mission and ministry- to use our blessings to help those in the community who are less fortunate. |
1. Lots of people volunteering | 1. Lack of feeling of community. | "To whom much is given, much will be required." This message that Father Mark shared has stayed with me for ages. I think we need to remember that we are a very blessed community and it is our responsibility to share these blessings with people outside of our immediate community. |
| 1. What are three particular stengths of this parish that attract members and keep them involved? | 2. What are three significant challenges facing this parish? | 3. What is the unique mission and ministry of this parish for its members and for the wider community? |
B. For Parishes with Schools
| 1. What are three particular strengths of your parish school that attract families and keep them enrolled? | 2. What are three significant challenges facing this school? | 3. Name anything that is particularly unique about this school, for its students or for the wider community. |
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Quality education | Loosing the Principle | The athletic program is top notch |
Location, history, access to "flashy" things (technology, sports, etc) | 1. It's size. The school is just way too big. There are way too many students in each class. It is not fair to the teachers or to the students. 2. The administration: while we are hopeful a new principal will bring about change, you have an assistant principal that seems miserable and does not work well with parents. Additionally, the previous principal gave people jobs they just weren't qualified for (ex. both directors of student achievement). 3. changing the culture from entitled parents/students to one where the administration and families work together. | |
1. Faith-centered teachers and aides. 2. We have parents who participate in the education of our children and who volunteer regularly. 3. An active sport and extracurricular program. | 1. Keeping the cost of education for each child down to a reasonable, affordable level. 2. School upkeep and maintenance. 3. Retaining quality teachers and administrators. | Please see the attributes above. This is where my family want to pray, worship, study, and serve! |
Our family was attracted to Holy Trinity Parish School (not Holy TrinityCatholic School because of its community and its academic success. The school leadership within Holy Trinity excelled, but most importantly believed our students could excel. It was a family where all were welcome-/this is what brought us to Holy Trinity. Now, it’s about bank accounts, and that exclusively. Within the school community, people are allowed to treat different classes of children with a class system. This was not how my oldest son was allowed to treat his classmates. | First challenge is that certain privileges are given to certain people, who are allowed to treat other students without consideration of Catholic values. We have lost a principal who lead us through significant academic success and that is in jeopardy Lack of true parental involvement where they are part of the decision making. . | The academic success and quality of teaching is without a doubt the best in the city. Offering advanced math and other services to bring children to their highest level of success. We are on the verge of losing this and it is concerning. |
My children left the school many years ago, so I am not well informed. However, I believe that Holy Trinity offers an excellent academic education and strong faith formation. The school also has a wonderful service-learning program. | I am not familiar enough with the school at this time to point to anything about its educational program or operations. I do worry about the cost of Catholic school education in general. Like many other Catholic schools, Holy Trinity seems to have a fair number of families that are only engaged in the school and not in the parish. | Holy Trinity's Clifton School is a unique offering among archdiocesan schools. I hope it remains sustainable. |
I don't have any children or grandchildren in the school so I don't have any experiences or insights related to it. | ||
Teachers | Declining birth rates | School nurse |
1. A strong reputation for academic excellence. | 1. Affluence can breed a sense of self reliance and division. | Two campuses that provide access for all levels of learning as well as accessibility for physical disabilities. |
Great teachers | Keeping the great teachers | Musical theater program |
I am not familiar enough with the school to make any comments in Section B. | ||
Excellent academic reputation. | Many parents would rather donate money than volunteer their time. | |
the people - parishioners | turnover | |
The quality of education | Pay for teachers | I love that any and every activity a child wants to do is available at HT - from sports, to art, to theater, to music. The community is so fortunate to have all of this in one location. |
I am older and don't have children or grandchildren at our school. | ||
1. The loving, welcoming and inclusive community. The parishioners are strong and mighty. Groups of parishioners come together beautifully in times of celebration and in times of trouble. 2. The parish/school connection is strong. The school continually leads children and families back to the parish (mass) and excited children for their sacraments. 3. The many groups/communities within the larger community that allow children and families from all walks of life to participate. the offerings for stewardship are endless! | 1. Busy families not making time to attend mass | Pray/Study/Serve. To be disciples of Christ and to share the good news with the greater community. |
1) Outreach to the community (Ashley Davenport) | 1) Large class sizes | 1) The excellent theater program & theater facility |
- location - known as good school educationally and athletically - students historically do well in high school | - families are “culturally Catholic” - culture - technology, business, focus on all things except religion and faith - | - lots of involved parents - strong tradition |
Our kids are out of school now... | ||
The traditions of the school attracts alumnae to join the parish because of the education and community experiences. | It seems that some parishioners are intimidated by the size of our parish/school. I feel like any size is manageable and can be positive if people are involved and programs/groups are reflected upon and reevaluated periodically. Size shouldn't matter if good people are working with good intentions. | The community feeling is very strong at HTS. We've experienced this for 30+ years as our family began, grew, and has expanded to grandchildren. |
Academic excellence, starting with pre-K Good and active sports and performing arts program Faculty and staff care about the children | Cost can be a challenge for families. Understand that it's important to pay decent salaries, keep up facilities, etc. Number of students (largest in the archdiocese) is a blessing and a curse. Lots of resources, more opportunities to find friends, but easier to get lost in the crowd? Not enough space for all the students? | Neighborhood setting is wonderful. Performing arts program is excellent, but offered as an extracurricular activity, which has its pluses and minuses. |
1. Academics | 1. Size. Class sizes are too big. More than 25 children in a classroom seems overwhelming for the teachers. In each of my children's grades, the classes that are smaller seem to have happier students with fewer behavior issues. The large classes (close to 30 kids per class and 3 class per grade level) don't have a cohesive feel and the interpersonal problems between students seem to be more. 2. Teaching social-emotional learning. This seems to be an area with immense area for improvement. The friendzy curriculum does not seem to be working. I'm not sure if it is a different program, more time, or different people teaching this program, but teaching our kids about self-esteem, respecting others, mindfulness, and making responsible decisions is equally important to teaching other subjects. 3. Math/advanced placement. Placing kids on an advanced track in 5th grade seems very young and the majority of kids on the advanced tract are boys because it is determined by math scores only. There are plenty of bright children who do not excel in math. 4. Technology/screen time. We rely too much on screens in the classroom and for homework. Writing boosts memory and attention in a way that taking notes on a laptop or doing math problems on a computer does not. 5. Homework. There is a lot of busy work for younger kids. It makes me sad to see my 1st grader sitting at home struggling to get homework done when the weather is beautiful and he/she should be outside playing with the rest of the neighborhood friends. Do we really need homework before 5th grade? Does it improve outcomes? | |
1. Academics | 1. Social-emotional learning. Teaching self-esteem, respect for others, mindfulness, and making responsible decisions is just as important as the other subjects we teach, maybe even more so. The Friendzy program does not seem to be getting the job done. | |
| 1. What are three particular strengths of your parish school that attract families and keep them enrolled? | 2. What are three significant challenges facing this school? | 3. Name anything that is particularly unique about this school, for its students or for the wider community. |
